True crime podcasters investigating the brutal 2017 murders of two young girls in Delphi, Indiana, say they spotted law enforcement conducting a search of waters close to where their bodies were . And you guys have not given up on us. He was charged with a probation violation for driving with a suspended. I get accused of that all the time on here, as I pretty much lay my life out pretty bare and naked on here. Compared to most single men his age, I dont think he has much animus towards young women at all. The probable cause affidavit and charging information were sealed by court order, McLeland said, to protect the ongoing investigation. "That is accurate," Becky Patty said. LE thinks BG did Evansdale and they think BG is Mr. X, correct. On a day off from school Monday, Feb. 13, 2017, the teens Liberty, 14, and Abigail, 13 embarked on a hike after a sleepover the night before at Libby's house. Were not doing that anymore. He said hes hiding in plain sight," Patty said. It also hints at the idea that they were meeting someone there, a gift for a date. ", The detective said: "Then why'd you search?". This is still a very ongoing investigation, McLeland said. He has been hiding in plain sight, posting his artwork and cryptic statements on FB, etc. Maybe because he witnessed real dolls where the girls were found? Is there any chance the Police Officer NM was murdered and it was made to look like suicide? The investigation is ongoing and open, various authorities reiterated during the news conference. Unlike any other sleuthers, we have actually determined the main suspect in the case, and we have a pretty good idea of what happened during the crime and what the crime scene looked like. In Indiana, most defendants are entitled to a reasonable bail that is high enough to ensure the defendant's appearance in court, according to Indiana law. And the new one we just talked to is saying that she was told not to tell anyone, but the scene was bugging and eating away at her so much that she just had to spill finally. That's mind boggling. Only a few seconds have been made public. LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) -- New details have been released in the case of two young girls found murdered in Indiana five years ago. The Peru home he shared with his father, Tony Kline, was raided 12 days after Libby and Abby were found dead. That seems proven at this point. Robert Lindsay, Independent Journalist: l Talk about Things You're Not Supposed to Talk About. Abby Williams, 13, and Liberty "Libby" German, 14, had gone for a. 'Today is the day': Update to Delphi murders of Libby and Abby announced by ISP, Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. To me, he seems very stupid and immature, and I guess I want to believe the BG is some highly intelligent criminal mastermind to do something so awful and then evade capture for so long. Also the original SPM1 clarified via my friend that there was not just one stuffed animal but also that there were stuffed animals plural at the scene. We definitely need to look into this a lot further, thats for sure. Thanks for posting. in which I've ever, thankfully, have had to witness anything so utterly horrible. Could it be that subconsciously people remember not so much the trees but what was dangling from them as they tell what they saw? I've read somewhere a few different times (only via rumor and not fact obviously and my apologies as I can't even remember where I read this, only that I definitely read it somewhere) that one of the girls' was left in a propped -up position against a tree. Please correct me if you know otherwise. Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland said the probable cause affidavit and charging information are sealed by the court. If the affidavit remains sealed, Rozzi said, it will make the prosecutors' and the defense attorneys' jobs more difficult since they will have to vaguely allude to allegations during arguments in future hearings, including the scheduled Feb. 17 hearing on whether Allen should be released on bond. Moments after multiple law enforcement agencies announced the arrest of Richard Allen, 50, in the 2017 killings of Delphi teenagers Libby German and Abby Williams, the. Legal documents released earlier this month also seem to support the assertion. Thats why Carter was so livid that night because their main suspect was right there in the room. RE Mr X and keys On the police radio a male is mentioned returning to the cemetery with his wife to collect his vehicle. The FBI also announced that it is utilizing approximately 6,000 electronic billboards in 46 states to solicit information on the case. Yes it is very important that there is a Tyson plant nearby in both of the crimes. "And thats the case. However, bond may be granted if the case does not appear to be strong, according to Indiana law. A public court hearing will be set to determine if the documents, including the affidavit in the case, will remain under seal. Indiana State Police. Thats not true. The family had trouble finding people to help them search. And were going to stay after it. Greenos videos are almost completely worthless, and group members who have spoken to him told me he has nothing new to add to the case. I could be wrong but I did read that. Will the public interest be substantially served by limiting access?" Because of the nature of the victims wounds, it is nearly certain the perpetrator of the crime would have gotten blood on his person/clothing., The document says authorities also found that two articles of clothing from one of the girls was missing from the crime scene while the rest of their clothing was recovered. If its the same guy I think hes a hunter who worked for Tyson. I appreciate your work. To me, that explains a lot about why it took them so long to find the girls in the first place. 0:04. The motive is likely to be a lot sicker than that. These two SPMs arrived at these conclusions independently. Privacy Policy. Pictures 1, 2, 3, and 5 show the area during and after the search. Here in Gary, about two years ago, a special needs woman and a toddler she lived with went missing. Very interesting. Arrest made in Delphi case: Delphi man charged with murder in killings of Libby German and Abby Williams A search party found their bodies along Deer Creek, about a quarter of a mile east. and our Unless she time traveled back to 2015-16 but maintained her age, th our math would make her 16 in 2017. "But the arrest on two counts of murder is sure a major step in leading to a conclusion in the long-term and complex investigation.". I live on a fixed income which is barely above the poverty level. Libby's grandmother, Becky Patty, told reporters that Allen had processed photos of the girls at a local drug store and did not charge the family for the cost. Allen's defense has not yet filed a rebuttal argument to the motion for a gag order, and Gull has not yet published an order on the motion. A number of those slaughterhouses around there are indeed operated by Orthodox Jews. We have no idea. Trexler was held in custody for a week in place of a $1,200 bond. In two August court filings, Kline's attorney said that his client was "exploring other legal options" about his child porn charges and negotiating with prosecutors. wishtv.com your home page, Business, Equity and Opportunities Podcast with Scott Sander, Myles Colvin captivates Heritage Christian crowds, preps for Purdue, Indiana wildlife expert on bald eagle killing: Its sad, IMPD policy on seized guns called into question, Indiana governor grants clemency to prisoner with inoperable brain tumor, 2 tornadoes confirmed in northern Hancock County. Discovery: February 14, 2017 That is very interesting. Most compelling is the tattoo of what is clearly Libbys face with two bones and a skull framing it. He seemed quite toned down and purposely mellow in his critique of single women. "I dont feel like I thought I would. We also have it from two separate search party members independently that they were told to not tell anyone what they had seen. I don't know. The search continued Tuesday morning, Valentine's Day, along the trails and the creek. Which I'm sure made finding the girls all that worse. Breaks my heart that the family had to try so hard to get help. I am very curious to know what you think people are getting wrong as to Chadwells behavior and videos (both are which are undeniably creepy). The motion to seal was improper because it lacked verification a sworn oath under penalty of perjury, Rozzi said. But now we have a response to that rejoinder. It is our theory that Mr. X stalked Libby on Snapchat for four months until the murders. Because sometimes searchers get lost too. Every time one comes up, everybody flips and says this is the guy!! Who were they? And you wont by enriching someone who is already wealthy like Hughes. How could that not be a stuffed animal? Police have released a new clue in the deaths of two girls a chilling recording of three words. Indiana State Police I dont know why more people arent talking about this connection. Makes me wonder if LE did look at him at one point. Talk about the helpless, right? The two girls had gone for a walk on an old railroad bridge along Monon High Bridge trail near Delphi, Indiana, on February 13, 2017, when they were murdered. Didnt know, I dont know the gentleman personally at all. Just a guess. He boasts hed like to beat the guy up even if it means incarceration. (WISH) Investigators believe the bodies of Abby Williams and Libby German were moved and staged at the Delphi murder scene, according to court documents obtained by I-Team 8. On Delphi, I agree with you about Chadwell. Theres a part where the helicopter flies over the crime scene and some people worked forever on that and somehow got some pics out of it. Would you consider writing a post on him? Nice guy! Its from a Youtube video of some guy who edited the publicly available helicopter footage. Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, were found dead on Valentine's Day, 2017, a day after they vanished while hiking through the woods of the Historic Delphi trails. Reach Ron Wilkins at [email protected]. I mean, surely folks would know if a well-known, local who became a POI was in on the search? Authorities said that Richard M. Allen, 50, of Delphi, Ind., was taken into custody last week and charged with two counts of murder Friday in the killings of Liberty German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, whose bodies were found in 2017. Another chilling detail recovered from Libertys phone emerged about a week after the girls were found a recording of what might have been the killers voice. Or Libby was going to tell all and bring many people down from previous insurance/appraisal scams? According to prosecutors, Kline used a bogus social media profile with the username "anthony_shots" to contact and illicit nude photographs from numerous underage girls. Inside Carroll County courtroom, reporters, sketch artists and the public packed the courtroom as dozens of police officers stood watch over the crowd and Allen. Its the wife herself supposedly coming back to give him his keys. "It's obviously significant in some way; I can only just hope that it's for the girls, but we don't know. Why not donate to the best Delphi sleuthing team of all by donating to me, leader of a group of 230+ sleuthers who have been working on the case for four years now? The time will come when additional details can be released, but again today is not that day, Indiana State Police Superintendent Douglas Carter said. Ive seen some criticism of your stuffed bear theory, and I personally think its nuts, but if that image is realIf it is real, what do think the motive was? Allen shuffled his way to the defense table wearing a yellow jumpsuit, a black ballistic vest and his hands awkwardly chained to his chest left over right. "Secrecy of judicial action can only breed ignorance and distrust of courts and suspicion concerning the competence and impartiality of judges, attorneys for the media wrote, citing a Nebraska case. Were going to keep pushing all the way. "That's just a common thing to freak out about like, [why]; you know what I mean?" He makes public posts that he would, and has before beaten up men who prey on kids. I have thought flora & Delphi are connected ever since I learned of the Flora Fire. " (T)he media accounts concerning this cause have contained an undue number of statements relating no only to the progress of the investigation, but conclusions of the investigation, some of which have been untrue.". Support the best Delphi sleuthing group of all! Crews were being sent out 10 to 12 people at a time to help cover an area of 20 to 25 square miles, Leazenby said. Were there (are there) people from the search party talking on some obscure boards we know nothing of? I wonder if they got IDs of everyone in it or names(obviously he could give a fake one) because wouldnt they know who wasnt local or acted odd or just be able to look into them all to be safe. ", Delphi killings:4 things we learned about arrest in deaths of Liberty German and Abigail Williams. What if he's full of s**t? "While this is another chapter in this story, our lives that were going through right now, I want to make sure we continue that, right? Investigators were seeking a judges permission to search the propertyof Ronald Logan, who owned the land where the two girls were found dead. Travis Trexler, a cousin of alleged Snapchat catfish and child predator Kegan Kline, was arrested in Wabash County, Indiana, at the beginning of September on DUI charges, The U.S. Sun can exclusively reveal. omygosh what a shame! 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